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Hi,
if its possible for you to get some kind of job (only for short time is enough) you will be able to use the aggregation rule.
We write about this option here: https://www.a-kasser.dk/changes-in-unemployment-benefits-for-graduates-from-may-2023/.
When using the aggregation rule you do not have to meet the new language requirement or affiliation requirement, as you get your right to unemployment benefit on the basis of paid work combined with education.
Please read the above mentioned article, and talk to your A-kasse about whether its an option for you to use the aggregation rule.
If you find out that you can not use the aggregation rule (for example if you can not find a job), then it gives no meaning to continue A-kasse membership. You should then become a member again when you find a job, and then you will be eligible for unemployment benefits after 1 year membership, assumed that you can earn enough to meet the income-requirement (DKK 273,504) in one year.
Let me know if you have further questions.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHej,
udgangpunktet er at en uddannelse skal være normeret til 18 måneder.
En uddannelse kan godt være gennemført i udlandet, men om den opfylder “beskæftigelseskravet” (=de 18 måneder) vil fortsat blive afgjort efter samme kriterier som en dansk uddannelse, herunder krav om SU-berettigelse.
Der gælder så i loven nogle få undtagelser til kravet om 18 måneders normering – det er akademisk overbygningsuddannelse, herunder en akademisk erhvervsoverbygningsuddannelse i henhold til lov om universiteter, jfr. Bekendtgørelse om indkomst- og beskæftigelseskravet for ret til dagpenge §26, stk. 7 (https://www.a-kasser.dk/regler-om-a-kasse-og-dagpenge/bekendtgørelse-om-indkomst-og-beskæftigelseskravet-for-ret-til-dagpenge/).
En akademisk overbygningsuddannelse er en forskningsbaseret fuldtidsuddannelse, der varer 1 år (60 ECTS). Uddannelsen, der kræver en forudgående bacheloruddannelse, er et alternativ til den 2-årige kandidatuddannelse.
En akademisk erhvervsoverbygningsuddannelse er en akademisk overbygningsuddannelse tilrettelagt på deltid for personer i sideløbende beskæftigelse.
Disse uddannelser er normeret til 12 måneder som fuldtidsstudie i henhold til universitetsloven.
De kandidatuddannelser der kan give ret til dimittenddagpenge efter kun 12 måneder er altså kun disse to typer overbygningsuddannelser, og ikke den normale 2-årige kandidatuddannelse.
Jeg vil derfor tro at din A-kasse giver afslag på dagpenge fordi din overbygning ikke er en af disse to særlige akademiske overbygningsuddannelser. Og derfor skal din uddannelse opfylde kravet om 18 måneders normering, hvilket den ikke gør i følge det du oplyser.
Hvis du stadig føler du har en god sag kan du jo altid prøve at klage over afgørelsen fra din A-kasse. Du skal sende klagen til din A-kasse, og de har pligt til at videresende den til Center for Klager om Arbejdsløshedsforsikring (CKA) i Styrelsen for Arbejdsmarked og Rekruttering.
Lad os høre hvis du har yderligere spørgsmål eller kommentarer.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHej,
hvis man allerede er medlem af en dansk A-kasse kan man bevare sit medlemskab af A-kasse hvis man skal arbejde udenfor EØS.
Er man flyttet til udlandet og efterfølgende finder ud af at man gerne vil være medlem af en dansk A-kasse kan det kun ske hvis særlige betingelser er opfyldt (se nedenfor).
Du kan som hovedregel kun blive optaget i en dansk a-kasse, når du har bopæl og ophold i Danmark. Det fremgår af
Lov om Arbejdsløshedsforsikring §41 (https://www.a-kasser.dk/regler-om-a-kasse-og-dagpenge/lov-om-arbejdsløshedsforsikring/kapitel8/).Kravet om bopæl og ophold i Danmark kan imidlertid fraviges ved arbejde for en dansk arbejdsgiver i lande uden for EØS, jfr. Bekendtgørelse om arbejdsløshedsforsikring ved arbejde m.v. inden for EØS, Færøerne og i det øvrige udland §10 (https://www.retsinformation.dk/eli/lta/2021/1925) på følgende betingelser:
1. du skal være midlertidigt udsendt af en dansk arbejdsgiver. Ved vurderingen af, om en person er udsendt midlertidigt, skal der som udgangspunkt lægges vægt på indholdet i aftalen. Midlertidig udsendelse foreligger normalt, når udsendelsen ifølge aftalen ikke har en varighed på over 6 år,
2. du skal have haft bopæl og ophold i Danmark, umiddelbart før arbejdet blev påbegyndt, og
3. du skal søge om optagelse senest 1 år efter, at du er flyttet til udlandet.
Jeg kan ikke ud fra de oplysninger du har givet, sige om du kan blive medlem af en dansk A-kasse.
Såfremt du er lønmodtager er der i øvrigt ikke forskel mellem de enkelte A-kasser på om de accepterer/optager dig som medlem eller ej. Alle A-kasser skal følge de samme regler, herunder de regler der er nævnt ovenfor.Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
according to the Nordic Convention on social security and EU rules about social security coordination, you can transfer acquired rights from A-kassa in Sweden to a danish A-kasse. This apply whether you are an EU citizen or a non-EU citizen.
However if you have not been member in a danish A-kasse within the last 5 years you must perform work in Denmark for 296 hours within 3 months before you can ask the A-kasse to transfer your insurance period/working period from Sweden (PD U1).
You must join a danish A-kasse no later than 8 weeks after you have stopped membership in the swedish A-kasse. We recommend to only stop membership in Sweden when you are sure that you have become member of a danish A-kasse.
You must only be member/insured in one country at a time, and that is the country where you phsycially work. In your case you must be member of a danish A-kasse (if you work from home in Sweden I assume that your home work counts for less than 25% of your total working time). And you must cancel membership in the swedish A-kasse.
When you have signed up for a danish A-kasse (it can be done online), you can send them the PD U1. However the danish A-kasse should also be able to get the information by using EESSI (Electronic Exchange of Social Security Information). The danish A-kasse will then ask the swedish A-kassa for a SED U002 (insurance periods) and a SED U004 (working period/income). We recommend you also get the PD U1.
Let me know if you need further information.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHej,
når en A-kasse har valgt at være en “Digital A-kasse” har det retsvirkninger for medlemmerne i den pågældende A-kasse.
Læs om det i vores artikel her: https://www.a-kasser.dk/digital-kommunikation-mellem-a-kasse-og-medlem/.Jeg går ud fra at DSA er en digital A-kasse.
Det betyder at medlemmer har pligt til selv at sørge for at ændre email og mobilnr mm. inde i A-kassens selvbetjeningsløsning.
Gør man ikke det er det ens egen skyld at man ikke ser det som A-kassen sender i deres digitale løsning.En A-kasse skal ikke følge op på om du har modtaget besked på mail/sms om at de har sendt noget til dig, eller om du har læst beskeden. Så snart en besked er sendt i deres digitale besked-system har A-kassen opfyldt deres pligt.
Havde du på et tidspunkt kontaktet A-kassen og bedt om rådgivning om efterløn, herunder bidragsfrihed, så havde A-kassen til gengæld haft pligt til at give dig den fornødne vejledning og instruktion.
Der har været nogle afgørelser i klagesager på dette område, f.eks. en vi har omtalt her:
https://www.a-kasser.dk/afgørelser/a-kasse-var-ikke-en-digital-a-kasse-frist-løb-derfor-først-fra-medlemmet-havde-læst-slettebrev/Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
we are not experts in the field of language tests.
However, as far as we can read on the internet (see for example https://www.studieskolen.dk/da/proever/proever-i-dansk), with a completed Modul 4, You have not passed the final exam for Danish education 3, and
hence I assume that you will not meet the language requirement.It requires a completed modul 5 to be able to go to test in Dansk 3.
Remember that also a passed test in Dansk 2 is enough to meet the language requirement.
We recommend that you ask your own A-kasse about this, as this is something they must help you with.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
it is correct that the first meeting has to be within 2 weeks after you have registered as unemployed.
About specific dates you must ask your A-kasse.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
its only the first meeting (“CV samtale”) with the A-kasse where you have to meet in person at the A-kasse office. I am not sure
what you mean by “intro meeting” – but the “CV meeting” (CV samtale) has to be in person. All other meetings can be held online by phone or video.About what dates are available you must contact your A-kasse directly. We can not help you with that.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
when moving between the nordic countries there is a “5 year” rule regarding Unemployment insurance. The rule says that if a person have been insured against unemployment in one nordic country and return to that country within 5 years, he/she can transfer acquired rights (insurance period and work/income) without need to meet a working requirement in that country.
When returning to Denmark this is important, because if you become member (again) of a danish A-kasse within 5 years since you last time was a member, you do not need to work in Denmark (296 hours within 3 months) before you can transfer your acquired rights from the swedish A-kasse to the danish A-kasse.
If it has been more than 5 years ago you have been member of a danish A-kasse, you must work in Denmark (296 hours within 3 months) before you can transfer rights.
So, I think that must be important for you to become member of a danish A-kasse before the 5-year deadline, if its possible.
However you can not decide yourself in which country to be insured against unemployment. This follows the EU rules of social security coordination.
You tell that your employer is a “governmental institution” (University), and that you therefore have to keep your insurance in Sweden even if you work from home in Denmark. This is only correct if your job is considered as a “civil servant”.
A job is not “civil servant” just because the employer is a governmental institution.According to EU social security legislation, the term ‘civil servant’ includes not only civil servants, but also any person treated as such in the EU Member State where their employer’s administration is based. This means that each country applies its own national legislation to define a civil servant.
The rule say that a civil servant is covered by the social security of the country to which their employer’s administration belongs. This applies regardless of where the civil servant works or lives.
If you work for the university as a civil servant (check with your employer if you are unsure), you are covered by the social security of your employer’s home country, in this case Sweden, even if you do all your work remotely in Denmark. Your Swedish employer must apply for an A1 certificate from Sweden to show that you are covered by Swedish social security. This means that, among other things, that you are covered by unemployment insurance in Sweden.
The contrary apply if your job is a normal contractual employment. In this case you must be insured in the country where you work, which is Denmark.
There will be no problem with meeting the income requirement because your income from Sweden will be taken into account by the danish A-kasse. As long as you have been member of an A-kasse in Sweden or Denmark they can use income from both Sweden and Denmark 3 years back in time to meet the income requirement (DKK 273.504 in total for the last 3 years).
When you sign up with a danish A-kasse you should ask them to transfer your rights from the swedish A-kasse. It can probably be done electronically (through EESSI). If not, they will ask you about a PD U1 certificate. Its a document that states your insurance and working periods in Sweden. You can get the PD U1 document from the swedish A-kasse.
Let me kow if you have further questions.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
to meet the income-requirement you need to have earned DKK 273,504 kr. within the last 3 years.
However its only possible to count a maximum amount/salary of DKK 22,792 per month.
This also means that you always need at least 12 months with income to be able to meet the income-requirement.
12 x 22,792 = 273,504.
The only way to avoid the need of 12 months with income, is if you can combine finished higher education with income from work. 1 month of education is equivalent to DKK 22,792 when determing if the income-requirement is met.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
we only help with unemployment insurance – and therefore we can not help you with healthcare related questions.
However according to Lifeindenmark.dk:
https://lifeindenmark.borger.dk/working/cross-border-commuters/cross-border-worker-and-health-insurance“As a cross-border worker you have access to medical treatment both in your country of residence and country of employment (Denmark). That means you can choose whether you want to use the healthcare services in your country of residence or in Denmark.”
You can also find more information at https://www.pendlerinfo.org/pendlerinfo/dk/.
Remember when you work in Denmark you must be insured againt Unemployment in Denmark. So if you not already have done that, you must sign up with an A-kasse in Denmark.
Hope it helps.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
the 24 months timeframe will be 24 months before the 1. in the month where you start to get paid unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”).
You will have to register as graduate at latest 2 weeks after graduation to secure your graduate rights.
If you also at the same time apply to get dagpenge paid out, your 24 months timeframe will be from 1. june 2023 until 1. june 2025.
So your working hours from Germany in June and July 2023 will be included when the A-kasse calculate whether you meet the 600 hours requirement.
However remember that your working hours (in Denmark and Germany) can only be included if it was carried out on ordinary pay and working conditions. This means, for example, that your salary must not be too low. If your hourly wage was below DKK 142,15 in 2025, you must expect that the A-kasse will take a closer look at it.
You dont tell us if you already now are a member of A-kasse, and in that case for how long you have been member.
If you have been member of A-kasse for at least 12 months when you graduate you have also option to apply for dagpenge as a wage-earner or after the “Aggregation rule”.
If you want to apply as wage-earner you must off course meet the “normal” requirements for getting dagpenge in Denmark, this also means that you must meet the income-requirement.
The “Aggregation rule” is possible to use if you can get some kind (can be short-time) job after graduation. You can read more about your options in this article:
https://www.a-kasser.dk/changes-in-unemployment-benefits-for-graduates-from-may-2023/In case you can use “wage-earner” rule or the “Aggregation rule” the language/affiliate requirement does not apply, and you will also get a 2 year period with dagpenge instead of only 1 year (after the graduate rule). Depending on how much your salary was/is it can also give you a higher amount in Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”).
As you can see its important to find out what your options are – and we strongly recommend that you also ask your A-kasse about this.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
I assume that you are not already a member in an A-kasse.
If you had been a (student) member for at least one year and you also have worked together with your study you would have had different options when it comes to A-kasse /unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”).
However now there is less than one year and if you want to get Unemployment benefits when you are graduating you must use the special rules for graduates.
I think it would be a good start to read our article for graduates: https://www.a-kasser.dk/graduates/
Please read carefully the section “Conditions for graduate rights”.You have to apply for membership with graduate right at latest 14 days after graduation.
Since you have not been member for at least 1 year, you wil get a “waiting period” for 1 month, where you will not receive any Unemployment benefits (“dagpenge”).
Please be aware that one of the conditions is a “language/affiliate” requirement. You can read more here:
https://www.a-kasser.dk/graduates/language-requirement/I think you should be able to fulfill the “language/affiliate” requirement by the working in Denmark you have been doing – but it depend on how many hours you have worked.
Let me know if you already are member in A-kasse and have been for at least one year when graduating, because it can change my answer.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHej,
ja det fremgår af “lov om arbejdsløshedsforsikring m.v.” § 43, at medlemskabet ophører senest ved udgangen af den måned, hvori medlemmet når folkepensionsalderen efter lov om social pension.
Der er dog mulighed for seniormedlemskab af en A-kasse, men det giver ikke ret til dagpenge.
Jeg er ikke klar over om “Danske A-kasser”, der er brancheorganisation for de danske A-kasser, har været i dialog med politikere/regeringen om dette spørgsmål.
VI har som sådan ikke nogen holdning til dette spørgsmål. Vi er en generel guide om A-kasse medlemskab og dagpengeregler. Vi forholder os til loven som den er.
Håber det var svar på dit spørgsmål.
Med venlig hilsen
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dkHi,
With a PD U2 document, you are entitled to unemployment benefits for the period stated in the document, which is a maximum of 3 months. The PD U2 is only valid for the period stated in the document.
If the member becomes covered by unemployment insurance in the other EEA country, the period with PD U2 is considered to be interrupted (as the member may not be double insured and must therefore be deregistered from the Danish unemployment insurance fund, “A-kasse”).
The payment of unemployment benefits on a PD U2 from a danish A-kasse is conditional on the person being a member of a Danish unemployment fund, “A-kasse”.
I assume that you began to be covered by unemployment Insurance in Bulgaria when you started working in Bulgaria, and at the same time canceled your membership in the danish A-kasse.
So you can not get the rest of the PD U2 period paid from a danish A-kasse.
Best regards,
Anders Weber, A-kasser.dk